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[Marco]

I have no idea what you are talking about..... from experience I found that SSC mouse aiming is very good especially in 1st person with Sharp Turning.... man pls turn off inp_bMousePrecision you will thank me.... it is the biggest bullshit I have ever tested in this game (I believe you have it on, you mentioned that somewhere)...

I told you, I have no words how to describe it... it is like when you have a trailer and you have to hook it into the tractor and you do the proper maneuvers...

Yeah, X-Fighter already wrote that Sharp Turning is needed for 1st person. A long time ago I played FE against Kacper and I had always to aim in 1st person with the Tommygun.
But when I see a noob walking forward, I can kill him in 3rd person view very easily.

MousePrecision is synonym of... Mouse Acceleration? Or Relative?

I have no idea what other people like Melody and you have a problem with, I mean Melody uploaded some video where she literally shoots earlier than she turns and said it is lag and that the shot lands not where you aim lol.

What? No, when I say "demos", I mean exactly "demos", from 42Amsterdam, I'm not talking about the genial Melody anymore.... unless she is "R3D" from Italy I've seen playing 3-4 days ago (but I didn't ask because I thought it was still Ninja from Moldova)..

There is no problem with SSC at all with the aiming, you turned off predictions so now you have to deal with it: don't be surprised that you can't follow the target and shoot where it is on your screen, because this image is 150 ms behind actual image, and obviously you have to prefire in front of that image! It works similarly in HD and later games but it is easy to get used to (though I am not confident in myself that i can play good enough with other predictions off in Classic lol)! Nothing is screwed up with vertical mouse movement! Don't you watch how better players play?

The easiest example: Red Station. People with Sniper Rifle miss a lot of hits when a target is mid-air after jumping from a pad, because they can't clearly follow opponent's move (in fact, most of the times, the first player aims in the opposite direction compared to where his target actually is). The way the aim is moved... they are seemingly drawing an invisible question mark in the sky...
And when an opponent strafes left-right, without jumping, they still miss 95% of hits too. You can easily hit only a target after a simple jump or if he is moving damn slooooooooowly.
With Double Shotgun: most of the skilled players kill their opponents after moving the mouse horizontally (3rd person view). Just like the tractor with its trailer I mentioned above. Sorry, can't find british-american slang for it.

You think they can't move their mouse vertically with ease and that it messes up everything?

I have seen sometimes PlayerA killing PlayerB with SR or DS after a vertical move, but the movement was very, very fast, improvise, in a straight line and the percentage of such hits is very low compared to kills from horizontal moves. That's a lucky shot or I have to assume somebody is using aimbot here...

I played Serious Sam HD and I don't like the strafe (circle like you call) jumping, it is overpowered and you can escape out of any fight by just pulling out the knife and strafing left-right and holding forward... about mouse there: it is not better OR worse, however since I am used to SSC with its Raw Input off, HD has only Raw Input on without option to disable it like other SS games, so this was a shame... I had to get used to aiming like that but I did and it is nothing better or worse.

Ok, I understand you are used to old Serious Sam and you didn't like its remake, but rusty-woody aim will never be better or superior than modern freelook implemented in SSHD/QL/CPMA. They have had their reasons to improve RAW Input. We are talking about two different eras...

this image is 150 ms behind actual image, and obviously you have to prefire in front of that image! It works similarly in HD

And, yes: I have delay ingame in the newer FPSs too. But they don't have customizable options (such as predictions or netsettings) like Serious Sam, so it couldn't be the same.

In Serious Sam HD, it works this way:

- Me, ping to italian servers from Milan: 65-72;

- Other italian, ping to the same server: 34-42 (somebody else could have 48-51); --> If they are players with 200 hours or less, I can beat them; somebody comes out with the excuse of me lagging, so that I'm "impossible" to aim for them (because they see my sprite flickering);

- Stranger player in the same server: could be MrSnabz from Germany (ping 82-91) or Point Man from Russia (ping 109); --> When players with same ping as me or higher join the lobby, I start to have lags (this time for real!!!) and it comes unplayable: 1,5 seconds to switch from Single Shotgun to knife, laser projectiles impossible to see (both when you are shooting or your opponent is), 1,5 more seconds of delay when you have to shoot, you hurt your opponent but you always need last hit... and Point Man has already spawnkilled you most of the times... In the old Sam I had the "missing-last-hit" situation only with players with 50 ms or lower ping (Jack, Capricornus, etc) especially in Shotty Trouble server.

LOL what are you smoking?) Ryzen processors are primarily made for PC, and most other things too! And the 2500U came out in 2018 not 2017

Then it's CPU-world mistake.

Ouch... why do you still have an Atom... average-decent APU laptops today really don't cost alot...

Now Windows 7 support has expired and another problem with new hardwares is they only have drivers for the damn Windows 10... and I don't want the Microsoft Intelligence Agency spying on what am I installing or not on my system (certainly I'm NOT planning terroristic attacks nor trading drugs)... And if I get Enterprise (the only version without Microsoft spywares), I should pay twice for the same OS (and no: I don't use cracked OSs since a friend told me his experience when they busted him with pirate Windows XP)... And it's not over yet: seems that spying activities from Microsoft do slowdown your system, including CPU usage, with the excuse they are sending information and feedback to Microsoft to "improve" your experience with Windows... Plus, people say 10 is a total downgrade compared to 7 for multiple reasons.

Personal opinion: if it is true that Windows 10 support expires in 2025, then it is not that convenient to buy now. In 2022-2023-2024 Microsoft could release a new OS, and I should change twice in 5 years? I still use Windows 7 since 2011 and I'm happy with it. Yeah, maybe I don't have to browse the internet that much, but 5 years is not 50 years. Let's only hope new Windows (how will they name it? Windows Twenty? Windows 40th Anniversary?) will be closer to 7 rather than 10.

from earlier post I saw that you completely ruined the prediction in this game, so you have to revert all these values to their original settings if you want WORKING prediction [...]

In this screenshot, the reason why you have to "prefire" the enemies are the cli_tmPredict commands.

When I put 0, the default presets were 15 in those values you mention (Enemy, Ally and Foe).
Measurement unit is: meters or seconds?

[Supersniper98]

I told you, I have no words how to describe it... it is like when you have a trailer and you have to hook it into the tractor and you do the proper maneuvers...

I still have no idea what you are talking about :|

Yeah, X-Fighter already wrote that Sharp Turning is needed for 1st person. A long time ago I played FE against Kacper and I had always to aim in 1st person with the Tommygun.
But when I see a noob walking forward, I can kill him in 3rd person view very easily.

This is mainly due to your bigger ping... normally you don't ever have to switch to first person, especially since it has red screen- HAH Kacper I bet he would play against you all day but when he sees me he runs out of the server in less than 2 seconds because the score on the stats page will be ruined...

MousePrecision is synonym of... Mouse Acceleration? Or Relative?

nop that is its own thing, it is some "smartass" algorithm that thinks it knows when it has to slow your aim down etc and it fails miserably at that (check inp_bMousePrecision and make sure it is OFF)

What? No, when I say "demos", I mean exactly "demos", from 42Amsterdam, I'm not talking about the genial Melody anymore.... unless she is "R3D" from Italy I've seen playing 3-4 days ago (but I didn't ask because I thought it was still Ninja from Moldova)..

NAH I don't think this is Ninja...

The easiest example: Red Station. People with Sniper Rifle miss a lot of hits when a target is mid-air after jumping from a pad, because they can't clearly follow opponent's move (in fact, most of the times, the first player aims in the opposite direction compared to where his target actually is). The way the aim is moved... they are seemingly drawing an invisible question mark in the sky...
And when an opponent strafes left-right, without jumping, they still miss 95% of hits too. You can easily hit only a target after a simple jump or if he is moving damn slooooooooowly.
With Double Shotgun: most of the skilled players kill their opponents after moving the mouse horizontally (3rd person view). Just like the tractor with its trailer I mentioned above. Sorry, can't find british-american slang for it.

I have really 0 clue about any of what you are saying here... show me 1 game where you can easily track and kill enemy that is moving too fast, especially if it is online environment with around 100 ms... "PEOPLE" who can aim, can aim... and trust me they don't miss- are you even spectating Bad Boy or any other person like Zdzichu? What part of their sniper kills is "missing"?
These skilled players move the mouse horizontally because the opponent is moving horizontally, what is the problem? However you will see if they are really skilled when the opponent moves vertically, jumping will not save you at all if they can react in time.

I have seen sometimes PlayerA killing PlayerB with SR or DS after a vertical move, but the movement was very, very fast, improvise, in a straight line and the percentage of such hits is very low compared to kills from horizontal moves. That's a lucky shot or I have to assume somebody is using aimbot here...

Nope) Man listen the majority of players you watch today can't aim even horizontally, the horizontal move you think you saw is them strafing their crosshair into the enemy with barely any mouse movement! This is not luck, it is reaction! Naturally it will be harder to react vertically, show me 1 game where this isn't the case and where people manage to flick up and down as easy as right and left or something!

Ok, I understand you are used to old Serious Sam and you didn't like its remake, but rusty-woody aim will never be better or superior than modern freelook implemented in SSHD/QL/CPMA. They have had their reasons to improve RAW Input. We are talking about two different eras...

Eh...... man I said this many times, you keep calling SSC aim rusty and woody when it is not at all, and bring as example some questionably "skilled players" ... I tell you it is NOT hard to aim here, turn off smoothing, turn off inp_bMousePrecision and it is the best! Raw Input adds literally nothing for me, I am not from these people who use a ridiculous polling rate on their mice or some other stuff, and besides you said yourself that your mouse was this Logitech office mouse that has a serious problem with the sensor (I had such a mouse before, it wouldn't let me move cursor faster than a certain speed, in SS it was also just bad... replaced it immediately after 1 week)... If you improve your conditions you won't believe how smooth this game is! Especially on 144 Hz)

And, yes: I have delay ingame in the newer FPSs too. But they don't have customizable options (such as predictions or netsettings) like Serious Sam, so it couldn't be the same.

In Serious Sam HD, it works this way:

- Me, ping to italian servers from Milan: 65-72;

- Other italian, ping to the same server: 34-42 (somebody else could have 48-51); --> If they are players with 200 hours or less, I can beat them; somebody comes out with the excuse of me lagging, so that I'm "impossible" to aim for them (because they see my sprite flickering);

- Stranger player in the same server: could be MrSnabz from Germany (ping 82-91) or Point Man from Russia (ping 109); --> When players with same ping as me or higher join the lobby, I start to have lags (this time for real!!!) and it comes unplayable: 1,5 seconds to switch from Single Shotgun to knife, laser projectiles impossible to see (both when you are shooting or your opponent is), 1,5 more seconds of delay when you have to shoot, you hurt your opponent but you always need last hit... and Point Man has already spawnkilled you most of the times... In the old Sam I had the "missing-last-hit" situation only with players with 50 ms or lower ping (Jack, Capricornus, etc) especially in Shotty Trouble server.

You see? Yeah it is not the same! It's worse! Here you have no choice but to predict where the enemy will go in the amount of time that your ping is with your brain (it is not a bad thing but they could leave the option to enable prediction), and it is something Point Man is extremely good at which is why he will win with any ping)

Then it's CPU-world mistake.

Ew... since these processors had a "2" in front I thought they were Zen+ but they were Zen, so it makes sense they were released in 2017...

Now Windows 7 support has expired and another problem with new hardwares is they only have drivers for the damn Windows 10... and I don't want the Microsoft Intelligence Agency spying on what am I installing or not on my system (certainly I'm NOT planning terroristic attacks nor trading drugs)... And if I get Enterprise (the only version without Microsoft spywares), I should pay twice for the same OS (and no: I don't use cracked OSs since a friend told me his experience when they busted him with pirate Windows XP)... And it's not over yet: seems that spying activities from Microsoft do slowdown your system, including CPU usage, with the excuse they are sending information and feedback to Microsoft to "improve" your experience with Windows... Plus, people say 10 is a total downgrade compared to 7 for multiple reasons.

Personal opinion: if it is true that Windows 10 support expires in 2025, then it is not that convenient to buy now. In 2022-2023-2024 Microsoft could release a new OS, and I should change twice in 5 years? I still use Windows 7 since 2011 and I'm happy with it. Yeah, maybe I don't have to browse the internet that much, but 5 years is not 50 years. Let's only hope new Windows (how will they name it? Windows Twenty? Windows 40th Anniversary?) will be closer to 7 rather than 10.

Nah) Microsoft is spying you everywhere even if it isn't Ultimate/Professional/Enterprise, it is the rest of their services - but you are 1 from 8 billion beings on this planet nobody cares about you lolo
During Windows 10 installation you can turn off access to all these things or, (for bullshit sending data) you can set it to only the most required/minimum. I monitor the CPU all the time, it never goes above 4 % when I am idle, and most of this usage is actual applications like this monitoring tool...
Amazing)) Your friend didn't get caught, this is what happens when you just don't activate Windows) They will say to you USE GENUINE VERSION OF WINDOWS and make your background black... if you use a keygen for Windows 10 (from the quite a few available out there) you can get it activated easy and then it is completely legal, and NO I AM NOT paying for this bullshit like you said. Yes 10 might be a downgrade, but are you really thinking that an ALL-NEW OS that will come out later will be better???? I totally doubt it, especially now (before it was possible). And you plan to stay on the same specs? That laptop of yours now has to run XP, with 10 it would just struggle to run the system, and with that new OS specs will probably not be even supported)

When I put 0, the default presets were 15 in those values you mention (Enemy, Ally and Foe).
Measurement unit is: meters or seconds?

It is in seconds. When you aim at this type of entity it will remain in predicted state for this amount of seconds... entering and exiting predicted state causes enemies to lag forward (predicted image you need to aim at and shoot to kill the enemy) and backward (not predicted image) (how much depends on ping), so I just put Foe to a high value like 100, so when they enter they don't exit immediately from predicted state... this setting was done to save CPU and I can see why it is probably better to leave it to low value for coop monsters (Enemy), but for a few players I don't mind...

[Marco]

I still have no idea what you are talking about :|

Then I have to travel to Scotland again (after 10 years!!!) and learn some english slang... If you were used to understand italian, I'd have told you in italian... In english-english I can't explain yet...

This is mainly due to your bigger ping... normally you don't ever have to switch to first person, especially since it has red screen- HAH

You know, on GZ there's some very old thread about a workaround for this. It was called "No Red Screen Patch". When a player complained about the bad syncs, the other ones said: "It is a cheat, you noob!".
Yes, I know intense red screen is in DOOM/DOOM2 style (Serious Sam is actually based off on DOOM), but you can still see something even with that... Of course if you still have 10/10.

Kacper I bet he would play against you all day but when he sees me he runs out of the server in less than 2 seconds because the score on the stats page will be ruined...

Kacper plays since 2018... Are you serious that after 2 years he is still medium-low level of skill and scared of veterans?
In Serious Sam HD, if you have 2 years experience, you are a monster (ok, not an Absolute God yet, but you are pretty good to destroy almost everybody).

Kacper, how the hell are you playing???

nop that is its own thing, it is some "smartass" algorithm that thinks it knows when it has to slow your aim down etc and it fails miserably at that (check inp_bMousePrecision and make sure it is OFF)

Ok. And the grayed function "Enable IFeel" I can't change, what is for?

inp_bMousePrecision is currently set at 0, but PersistentSymbols changes from time to time, so I don't remember when I changed this. During these last days I was observing only and I did not touch console. However, situation as follows:

persistent extern user INDEX inp_iKeyboardReadingMethod=(INDEX)2;
persistent extern user INDEX inp_bAllowMouseAcceleration=(INDEX)1;
persistent extern user FLOAT inp_fMouseSensitivity=(FLOAT)1;
persistent extern user INDEX inp_bMousePrecision=(INDEX)0;
persistent extern user FLOAT inp_fMousePrecisionFactor=(FLOAT)4;
persistent extern user FLOAT inp_fMousePrecisionThreshold=(FLOAT)10;
persistent extern user FLOAT inp_fMousePrecisionTimeout=(FLOAT)0.25;
persistent extern user INDEX inp_bInvertMouse=(INDEX)0;
persistent extern user INDEX inp_bFilterMouse=(INDEX)0;
persistent extern user INDEX inp_bAllowPrescan=(INDEX)1;
persistent extern user INDEX inp_i2ndMousePort=(INDEX)1;
persistent extern user INDEX inp_bInvert2ndMouse=(INDEX)0;
persistent extern user INDEX inp_bFilter2ndMouse=(INDEX)0;
persistent extern user FLOAT inp_f2ndMouseSensitivity=(FLOAT)1;
persistent extern user INDEX inp_b2ndMousePrecision=(INDEX)0;
persistent extern user FLOAT inp_f2ndMousePrecisionFactor=(FLOAT)4;
persistent extern user FLOAT inp_f2ndMousePrecisionThreshold=(FLOAT)10;
persistent extern user FLOAT inp_f2ndMousePrecisionTimeout=(FLOAT)0.25;
persistent extern user INDEX inp_bMsgDebugger=(INDEX)0;
persistent extern user INDEX inp_iMButton4Up=(INDEX)131072;
persistent extern user INDEX inp_iMButton4Dn=(INDEX)131136;
persistent extern user INDEX inp_iMButton5Up=(INDEX)65536;
persistent extern user INDEX inp_iMButton5Dn=(INDEX)65568;
persistent extern user INDEX inp_ctJoysticksAllowed=(INDEX)8;
persistent extern user INDEX inp_bForceJoystickPolling=(INDEX)0;
persistent extern user INDEX inp_bAutoDisableJoysticks=(INDEX)0;

I was pretty sure I deactivated Mouse Acceleration, but it is still 1...

I have really 0 clue about any of what you are saying here... show me 1 game where you can easily track and kill enemy that is moving too fast, especially if it is online environment with around 100 ms... "PEOPLE" who can aim, can aim... and trust me they don't miss- are you even spectating Bad Boy or any other person like Zdzichu? What part of their sniper kills is "missing"?
These skilled players move the mouse horizontally because the opponent is moving horizontally, what is the problem? However you will see if they are really skilled when the opponent moves vertically, jumping will not save you at all if they can react in time.

Nope) Man listen the majority of players you watch today can't aim even horizontally, the horizontal move you think you saw is them strafing their crosshair into the enemy with barely any mouse movement! This is not luck, it is reaction! Naturally it will be harder to react vertically, show me 1 game where this isn't the case and where people manage to flick up and down as easy as right and left or something!

Look at Ibo:



At 0:14 the vertical, sharp, straight mouse movement I see rarely (what I call a lucky shot);

At 0:25, 0:43, 0:46, 0:53, 1:28, 1:30, 1:32, 1:44, 2:03, 2:17, 2:19 some examples of the most frequent hit when moving mouse horizontally. This is the chain reaction I'm desperately trying to explain for the last three days;

At 0:56 an example of hit when the target is jumping;

For mid-air fakehits and strafe left-right fakehits in Red Station, just watch a random demo from Petar server. The games there, are all identical one to each other.

"What's the problem?", you are asking. None. You'll say they all are normal hits. And they are. What I mean is that in a modern FPS the most skilled players from Sam would never fail a lot of shots with Sniper or Railgun, as it happens mostly on Red Station (which is more evident). About horizontal hits with Double Shotgun, what you call simply "aim", I'd rather call it a technique or a mechanism.

Eh...... man I said this many times, you keep calling SSC aim rusty and woody when it is not at all,

Then I have no more words. It is just an optical illusion because here the 3rd person sprite is glued to the camera and follows its movement while in Serious Sam HD is not.

and bring as example some questionably "skilled players" ...

Capricornus and Jack of Diamonds are questionable and unskilled?

besides you said yourself that your mouse was this Logitech office mouse that has a serious problem with the sensor (I had such a mouse before, it wouldn't let me move cursor faster than a certain speed, in SS it was also just bad... replaced it immediately after 1 week)

Logitech M100 you mean? It works for me. I changed only once for lockdown problem, but I think it was due to the fact I was already using it for a couple of years. But I replaced it with another M100 and it worked perfect like before. I think it is 7 years now since I bought it for the first time. If you changed it after a week, you might have had a broken one. In 2011, when I bought my first laptop (Samsung RV-520) I had the same problem with HDD...

You see? Yeah it is not the same! It's worse! Here you have no choice but to predict where the enemy will go in the amount of time that your ping is with your brain (it is not a bad thing but they could leave the option to enable prediction), and it is something Point Man is extremely good at which is why he will win with any ping)

How can you think Serious Sam HD needs prediction parameters? And how can you think delayed actions are related uniquely to prediction parameters? Are you sure there isn't anything else? I have no knowledge of source code from both versions, but they might have used some more efficient script for netcoding in HD (and in Serious Sam 3 too). The predictions in the older version maybe were introduced back then because the 2009-10 technology obviously didn't exist. Or they would never have been removed them from the game...

The last time I saw Point Man's profile 'public' (maybe 2 years ago), it had 2992 hours. But I have seen Zeb89 beating him so many times back in early 2013. And Zeb didn't have fiber yet, only 20Mbps ADSL at that time.
Even MrRocket from Sicily has beaten him with 924 or 940 hours (when Point had about 2800), check for the video "MrRocket vs Point Man" (it's in 2 parts).

Point Man is only spawnkiller and nothing else, especially in small maps (such as Medieval Rage). And when you have good connection, he becomes normal.

Ah, and I also think he is one of those nerds who need to play 675234625645674347 hours to become a war machine... but if he stops playing for only 1 minute, he looses all of his form, IMHO.

Nah) Microsoft is spying you everywhere even if it isn't Ultimate/Professional/Enterprise, it is the rest of their services - but you are 1 from 8 billion beings on this planet nobody cares about you lolo

People, common people, maybe not. Governments and hackers, yes.

During Windows 10 installation you can turn off access to all these things or, (for bullshit sending data) you can set it to only the most required/minimum. I monitor the CPU all the time, it never goes above 4 % when I am idle, and most of this usage is actual applications like this monitoring tool...

I read about ShutUp10 and similar, are those programs worth it? Will they screw your system?

Amazing)) Your friend didn't get caught, this is what happens when you just don't activate Windows) They will say to you USE GENUINE VERSION OF WINDOWS and make your background black..

He said that when he got pirate version, he forgot to disable Windows Update. At the first connection to the internet, the system became unusable. But (fake) serial was "registered". We are talking about 11-12 years ago, though.

I AM NOT paying for this bullshit like you said

Aaah, then you might have updated it for free when it was allowed.

are you really thinking that an ALL-NEW OS that will come out later will be better????

I hope so. If they will release a worse OS than Windows 10 despite all negative feedbacks, then it means Bill Gates has earned enough money for a luxurious retirement on Mars...
Jokes aside, usually they have always alternated from a very good OS to the worst OS ever.

If the hypothetic new Windows will be the worst of the worst, then I have to waste years to learn how to use only one of hundred thousands systems based on Linux ... And this only for Google Chrome not supporting Windows 7 after the next 15 months have passed.

And you plan to stay on the same specs? That laptop of yours now has to run XP, with 10 it would just struggle to run the system, and with that new OS specs will probably not be even supported)

And who wrote I want to install Windows 10 in my netbook?
It is a model from 2012 I bought in june 2013, of course it has no drivers for Windows 10 since this OS has been released in alpha in 2014 for the first time!

For Windows XP I have no license. We had a shared desktop in 2006-2011 with Windows XP Professional installed, but a technician installed it, so no CD, no license, no product-key, nothing... And the support has expired in 2014...

Wait, I have an idea. Last summer, my Photosmart C3170 decided not to accept color toner anymore after about 15 years. So in august I bought another HP, but this time it was an ENVY 5020. Perhaps playing Serious Sam from a printer could be a good idea...

It is in seconds. When you aim at this type of entity it will remain in predicted state for this amount of seconds... entering and exiting predicted state causes enemies to lag forward (predicted image you need to aim at and shoot to kill the enemy) and backward (not predicted image) (how much depends on ping), so I just put Foe to a high value like 100, so when they enter they don't exit immediately from predicted state... this setting was done to save CPU and I can see why it is probably better to leave it to low value for coop monsters (Enemy), but for a few players I don't mind...

Thanks. And what about "Predict Remote Players" and prediction of their range?

[Supersniper98]

Kacper plays since 2018... Are you serious that after 2 years he is still medium-low level of skill and scared of veterans?
In Serious Sam HD, if you have 2 years experience, you are a monster (ok, not an Absolute God yet, but you are pretty good to destroy almost everybody).

Kacper, how the hell are you playing???

Kacper is doing that less but he still is..... it is mostly his brother, but they are both generally doing the same thing and they are toxic... you want proof? Watch this demo (FE):
https://mega.nz/#!TzBTDSSC!kdlhP7E3R...6tMRJZy7UHWZRc
Pay close attention how he F9s when he got killed and how in less than 2 seconds leaves when I join.
About the 2 years - NO) There are a bunch of people in SS DM that literally haven't moved for more than 3-4 or more years, and Kacper has also not moved since 2018. ME personally in HD with just over 15 hours, humiliated a person who had on his profile 1200 hours, and a bunch of other dudes with hidden profiles but I am sure they play at least 500 hours... (maybe you know them - [~TMA~] clan, I casually joined and it was my 10th game and I won 2 maps in a row) just playing is not going to make you win, you just get experience but when you can't play all the experience you can possibly get from this game is not going to save you.... I fell into their tactics once or twice but then it doesn't work) It is very simple)

Ok. And the grayed function "Enable IFeel" I can't change, what is for?

Nothing to worry about, some feature on old mice that would make them vibrate or something, kind of like controllers- already not supported.

Look at Ibo:



At 0:14 the vertical, sharp, straight mouse movement I see rarely (what I call a lucky shot);

At 0:25, 0:43, 0:46, 0:53, 1:28, 1:30, 1:32, 1:44, 2:03, 2:17, 2:19 some examples of the most frequent hit when moving mouse horizontally. This is the chain reaction I'm desperately trying to explain for the last three days;

At 0:56 an example of hit when the target is jumping;

For mid-air fakehits and strafe left-right fakehits in Red Station, just watch a random demo from Petar server. The games there, are all identical one to each other.

"What's the problem?", you are asking. None. You'll say they all are normal hits. And they are. What I mean is that in a modern FPS the most skilled players from Sam would never fail a lot of shots with Sniper or Railgun, as it happens mostly on Red Station (which is more evident). About horizontal hits with Double Shotgun, what you call simply "aim", I'd rather call it a technique or a mechanism.

Well you complain because people like to aim horizontally or what? It is the nature of thirdperson, if you play for a long time like that you will do it too, but here I mostly see that he is a flick player, this exists in ANY game! They like to move their mouse away or somewhere in the center and focus on the enemy , somehow it is easier than track- this doesn't prove anything especially since it is a clip from 2007, that is his own style, and standards have risen a lot since then.... if you played like that running around you would be surely dead, even if he didn't play against pros but only average players... yes horizontal hits is what I already said to you, most people don't even bother to aim, and pros sometimes, to make it easier, combine both aiming and strafing, that is why the movement may seem mainly horizontal but they are NOT limited to it.... and again, NO they are NOT missing a lot of hits in Red Station, they miss SOME... it happens! (I am sure it would happen in other games too) The random demo on Petar's server is probably Mossberg dude - who I like to call "no-mouse" guy... now with his ping it is hard but no, he can try to aim, he just doesn't.... he aims in a general direction and strafes every opponent and that is why he misses many shots, but sometimes this goddamn technique works for a bit, totally pissing off everyone who is trying to aim at least a bit... Other than that (idk what do you mean by fake-hits) especially if you look at a demo, no there aren't misses, they can be misses on your screen, but never in the demo.... I watched alot of demos where I made some ridiculous shots and it was always on target when I slowed it down...

Then I have no more words. It is just an optical illusion because here the 3rd person sprite is glued to the camera and follows its movement while in Serious Sam HD is not.

The reason why most of HD players today call thirdperson gay and Point Man even calls it "wall-fucking" or "fucking with the walls" is because unlike in Classic you have FOV control so they play on some ridiculous 130 FOV that I can never get used to... and also thirdperson is 50 km behind the player or something, they totally overdid it... 130 FOV in HD is ALMOST equivalent to Classic SE thirdperson on 90 FOV in close range... what these players dont realize is that by adding such huge FOV they lose everything at long range, so I took exactly advantage of that when I beat those Italian guys, HD players are strange, most of the time they ignore first shots and they are totally blind at a distance...

Capricornus and Jack of Diamonds are questionable and unskilled?

Idk what you are talking about, none of them are constantly restricted to doing what you mentioned above, like I said they may do it because it is overall EASIER, but both Jack and Capricornus have a very clean aim, without very unnecessary movements, Jack may miss but if he played more seriously he would not do it so often trust me) and Capricornus, miss with sniper? nice jokes, he plays without prediction of players so he prefires (like you said earlier) where he predicted the enemy will be and he happens to be very good at it... I should really maybe try to play like that lol.

Logitech M100 you mean? It works for me. I changed only once for lockdown problem, but I think it was due to the fact I was already using it for a couple of years. But I replaced it with another M100 and it worked perfect like before. I think it is 7 years now since I bought it for the first time. If you changed it after a week, you might have had a broken one. In 2011, when I bought my first laptop (Samsung RV-520) I had the same problem with HDD...

YES! EXACTLY THIS MOUSE) I tell you it was OK for most things, and if you move it slow it is fine, but when you try to flick fast it FAILS: either it is aiming you in totally wrong direction or it keeps moving even though you stopped- the sensor is just not made for it, if you think I had a broken mouse, here is a thread I randomly found by just googling:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/730/d...8719795545829/
(Guy decided to buy a new one lol)

You might not notice anything if your sensitivity is high, but I really don't advise you to do this, this mouse is 1000 DPI, I advise to play under 20 %... now that I remember seeing you in coop you were aiming in First Person and for some reason... it was bad- worse than some casuals who play, so I want you to explain me that because I never understood why... do you not have any space for the mouse or what?

The last time I saw Point Man's profile 'public' (maybe 2 years ago), it had 2992 hours. But I have seen Zeb89 beating him so many times back in early 2013. And Zeb didn't have fiber yet, only 20Mbps ADSL at that time.
Even MrRocket from Sicily has beaten him with 924 or 940 hours (when Point had about 2800), check for the video "MrRocket vs Point Man" (it's in 2 parts).

Point Man is only spawnkiller and nothing else, especially in small maps (such as Medieval Rage). And when you have good connection, he becomes normal.

This HD game is FUNNY, listen Point Man still likes to make fun of noobs, but he has matured since then ok? His profile now is less cringe...
About the video, ehm
1. No score was shown anywhere, and it was an edit but I don't care who won
2. No ping was shown anywhere (could be that this guy hosted, not that it was impossible to win like that too but anyway)
3. Point Man plays nothing like this today lol, I was watching the video and thinking, man was he really this stupid? Which proves that HOURS IN THIS GAME DON'T help you, but he took the time to really improve, and now he is not rushing his opponent without thinking like in that video and actually controls the map, call him spawn killer or whatever , it is not Classic FE- there is no ng rule he will kill you when he wants.

It is really funny how compared to Classic, HD players (especially in that video) look like they play without even thinking, and I am totally convinced of that, since I played for a small bit with those Italians that I mentioned earlier, and they were repeating the same movement patterns that they repeated at least 5000 times for the last 600 hours of their game... sometimes totally mechanically without thinking, I didn't know a single trick jump that they used, I just moved around the map logically and somehow won, so yeah.
also another note here: ping in HD matters more than in Classic, it is essentially a cleaner image (closer to reality), if you had a larger ping you would see the same image, but the difference is that you are NOT close to that reality, you have to not only think but now also AIM ahead of your opponent!)

Ah, and I also think he is one of those nerds who need to play 675234625645674347 hours to become a war machine... but if he stops playing for only 1 minute, he looses all of his form, IMHO.

WRONG) I know him, he joins rarely now (SE HD), he never lost any shape... and like I said HOURS MEAN NOTHING! He learned a large part of what he is capable of now from other Arena Shooter games, not SS- so the last 500-1000 hours are not like the previous 2000-2500 he had in that game! It depends how you spend this time in game, idling? repeating same mistakes? or learning from them?
I don't approve of his ego of course, he makes fun of bad playing people like he was never one of them? This video is proof! But anyway, other players don't help themselves too, why do they write bullshit to him in the chat and leave immediately? And then he can post it and have a nice laugh.... When I played with him he posted nothing, because I played with him and got 8 kills on him in BFE (20/8) but next map he killed me for good lel xD.... anyway BFE is not for DM, the balance is a total train-wreck...

I read about ShutUp10 and similar, are those programs worth it? Will they screw your system?

No Marco they don't (of course depends what you pick). And you will receive all updates.

Aaah, then you might have updated it for free when it was allowed.

No, I didn't. I bought an all-new computer, installed Windows 10 Pro 64-bit and activated it using HWIDgen. Everything is the same and nobody is catching anybody, because Windows is activated with a legit key.

I hope so. If they will release a worse OS than Windows 10 despite all negative feedbacks, then it means Bill Gates has earned enough money for a luxurious retirement on Mars...
Jokes aside, usually they have always alternated from a very good OS to the worst OS ever.

Man, I understand it is not the best but it really isn't that bad, I mean all I want from the OS is to not crash or make bullshit errors or lack some feature that I want or used in the past, so far haven't found a single feature (that I used before) that isn't here... Some new features can be bullshit, but I am sure there are tons of guides telling you how to disable them.
What alternating? By this logic Windows 10 had to be very good, because it already went to that shit which was Windows 8.... although I hear Windows 8.1 is not that bad now (no tablet/mobile interface), and very stable....

Thanks. And what about "Predict Remote Players" and prediction of their range?

Yes like I said you need to revert all these commands I showed above to the default, including the FILTER (very important!)
Prediction of Remote Players...... I tested and never found a difference between ON and OFF as long as general prediction is on... I even have player prediction range set to 0, this doesn't mean that they don't get predicted! So I don't know..... from the ranges the most important is the Entities range, set it to something like 100, 100 m radius is enough for predictions but I have no real proof if it is working too because.... I can snipe enemies in SE much further than 100 m and they will get predicted once I aim at them... but I am not really sure on all that.

[Jockant]

About computer mice, any mouse with the optical PixArt 3310 sensor and above, shouldn't spin out easily, when flung across the mousepad at REAL fast speeds (the 3310 can still lose track in quick movements, though). Most 'gaming' mice only has the PixArt in them, but some of them are cheap & not much worse, than more expensive ones.

Just some of the newer ones have holes, due the lightweight trend (more lightweight the mouse, the easier it's to aim, apparently). Some of the newer ones also have the holes under the shell.

I use the the Logitech G403 (3366 sensor) & also Logitech's G640 pad with 6% sensitivity in Sam at 400 or 800 DPI

Nonetheless, I don't reckon a top-end mouse is really required to be a great player in Serious Sam Classics, though (only if low sensitivity is used, like me (I'm not great))

[Supersniper98]

About computer mice, any mouse with the optical PixArt 3310 sensor and above, shouldn't spin out easily, when flung across the mousepad at REAL fast speeds (the 3310 can still lose track in quick movements, though). Most 'gaming' mice only has the PixArt in them, but some of them are cheap & not much worse, than more expensive ones.

Just some of the newer ones have holes, due the lightweight trend (more lightweight the mouse, the easier it's to aim, apparently). Some of the newer ones also have the holes under the shell.

I use the the Logitech G403 (3366 sensor) & also Logitech's G640 pad with 6% sensitivity in Sam at 400 or 800 DPI

Nonetheless, I don't reckon a top-end mouse is really required to be a great player in Serious Sam Classics, though (only if low sensitivity is used, like me (I'm not great))

Yes you are right, I don't get this trend with lighter mice) I don't want the mouse to fly when I barely give it a push lol, it might be more accurate but it is less stable! But specifically with the M100, the sensor is really bad, I had better sensor with Microsoft mice- they were somehow magically accurate, and I used that mouse 4 years until the cable was damaged xD It wasn't the best, but what to expect for 5-7 euros?) Surely better than the M100! Otherwise the 2 had very similar specs but the M100 was just trash for anything that required a bit of speed, that is why I could play 4 years with the Microsoft, and 1 week with that one... I think that all these things that Marco is trying to explain to me above about how hard it is to aim etc is partially due to the mouse- change it to a little bit better one and you will be OK!) Also if you think because of some person on the internet that Mouse Acceleration is CANCER and that you must turn it off, don't force that opinion on yourself! Test first and find your settings! I see you look online for everything, from what techniques to use in game to what settings to use.... you have to find those yourself- everything is personal preference! For example I play with Mouse Acceleration in SS.... it is harder, but it is not impossible to play with)

[Jockant]

Yeah, to my experience it's easier to track small targets with a lighter mouse, but it indeed is harder to keep stable, haha

I used to game with Microsoft Comfort 500 Mouse or some in 2010-2013 with 28% sens and my aim definitely wasn't the best lol I dont know what the DPI of it was, it couldn't be changed, I'm sure

I don't use acceleration myself (Windows Pointer Precision off & 6/11 speed), but some can control it well! According to https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/ it's said: "Notes:
IMPORTANT: Make sure "Mouse Acceleration" is ON, this is a flat 4x multiplier in Serious Sam, and not variable acceleration. Turn mouse smoothing off by setting "Smooth Axis" to "No" in the menus, or GlobalDontSmoothAxes on the config file.", so my mouse settings are set like that

[Supersniper98]

Yeah, to my experience it's easier to track small targets with a lighter mouse, but it indeed is harder to keep stable, haha

I used to game with Microsoft Comfort 500 Mouse or some in 2010-2013 with 28% sens and my aim definitely wasn't the best lol I dont know what the DPI of it was, it couldn't be changed, I'm sure

I don't use acceleration myself (Windows Pointer Precision off & 6/11 speed), but some can control it well! According to https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/ it's said: "Notes:
IMPORTANT: Make sure "Mouse Acceleration" is ON, this is a flat 4x multiplier in Serious Sam, and not variable acceleration. Turn mouse smoothing off by setting "Smooth Axis" to "No" in the menus, or GlobalDontSmoothAxes on the config file.", so my mouse settings are set like that

Yeah) It took me way longer to learn how to aim but it is not bad at all... I am very used to it in any game, and from what I found: Serious Sam's Mouse Acceleration simply allows Windows Pointer Precision in the game, i tried turning Pointer Precision off and turning on/off Mouse Acceleration had no effect! So to get the same effect in other games, I turn off their Mouse Acceleration, and turn Raw Input off and it works! lol
My mouse settings in Windows are 3/11 and Pointer Precision ON at 1000 DPI and 125 Hz polling rate, I don't understand what is better in using higher polling rate, it made the mouse more unpredictable and sometimes even buggy for me... maybe because pointer precision works based on the amount of samples or something, I don't know.... could be more beneficial to players who don't use Mouse Acceleration but not me...

[red3ninja]

What do you think about my extras?

[Supersniper98]

What do you think about my extras?

Probably better than Logitech M100
And my keyboard is also like that, simple but very cool keyboard)

[Marco]

Kacper is doing that less but he still is..... it is mostly his brother, but they are both generally doing the same thing and they are toxic... you want proof? Watch this demo (FE):
https://mega.nz/#!TzBTDSSC!kdlhP7E3R...6tMRJZy7UHWZRc
Pay close attention how he F9s when he got killed and how in less than 2 seconds leaves when I join.
About the 2 years - NO) There are a bunch of people in SS DM that literally haven't moved for more than 3-4 or more years, and Kacper has also not moved since 2018.

Maybe it is: they get paid for stainless scores!

ME personally in HD with just over 15 hours, humiliated a person who had on his profile 1200 hours, and a bunch of other dudes with hidden profiles but I am sure they play at least 500 hours... (maybe you know them - [~TMA~] clan, I casually joined and it was my 10th game and I won 2 maps in a row) just playing is not going to make you win, you just get experience but when you can't play all the experience you can possibly get from this game is not going to save you.... I fell into their tactics once or twice but then it doesn't work) It is very simple)

Never heard about TMA. Sorry, it is almost 2 years I don't play SamHD anymore.

Who are the dudes? Thousands italians have been playing there... Btw, does anybody still play there??? You might have found some people because it was a black friday or a cyber monday for sure...

Certainly you can't beat a player with 1200 hours if you have only 15. He must have played Co-op or survival only for most of the time or it was a rusty former player. And with 15 hours of playtime, in SSHD, you can't even learn maps layout or basic movements, lol... Ok, I'll believe you: just record a demo of you having a duel against him and post it on YT.

Well you complain because people like to aim horizontally or what?

...

Ok, let me say I complain about something... Not precisely what, but something.

It is the nature of thirdperson

No, impossible: this game has the best implemented mouselooking ever...

if you play for a long time like that you will do it too

Oh, yes. Captain Obvious was here...

They like to move their mouse away or somewhere in the center and focus on the enemy , somehow it is easier than track- this doesn't prove anything especially since it is a clip from 2007, that is his own style, and standards have risen a lot since then.... if you played like that running around you would be surely dead, even if he didn't play against pros but only average players... yes horizontal hits is what I already said to you, most people don't even bother to aim, and pros sometimes, to make it easier, combine both aiming and strafing, that is why the movement may seem mainly horizontal but they are NOT limited to it... and again, NO they are NOT missing a lot of hits in Red Station, they miss SOME... it happens! (I am sure it would happen in other games too) The random demo on Petar's server is probably Mossberg dude - who I like to call "no-mouse" guy... now with his ping it is hard but no, he can try to aim, he just doesn't.... he aims in a general direction and strafes every opponent and that is why he misses many shots, but sometimes this goddamn technique works for a bit, totally pissing off everyone who is trying to aim at least a bit... Other than that (idk what do you mean by fake-hits) especially if you look at a demo, no there aren't misses, they can be misses on your screen, but never in the demo....

1- That isn't Ibo style, that is #everybodywhohassomeskillwithdoubleshotgun style;

2- The date of the clip has nothing to do with it: it's still Serious Sam! Maybe 1.05 and not 1.07... but still the same game! The point, here, is the best "aim" implemented ever on a game, which is the same in 2007 as in 2020, not Ibo's or standard tactics and his opponents skill!

3- The horizontal moves: we have been talking about the same thing for a week now. For you is actual aim, without limitations, just as implemented on more modern games, and I still don't agree. But ok...

4- This demo:



The problem is the infinite ammo, so you don't count the failed shots. I'll consider only part 1, it's enough. BUT... On Bad Boy side, since you asked me to show you only skilled players (Mossberg for me is only that annoying Grenade Launcher camper/spammer with Stainless Steve skin at Hole).
From 25:20, Mossberg moves strafing a lot and Bad Boy misses 10 shots out of 11, then 2 more. One minute later, 26:20, Mossberg is jumping from the Cannon's room pad, Bad Boy misses 2 out of 2 when his opponent is mid-air. This is what I was talking about.

5- A fakehit is when you miss (or fail) a hit... What's new?

The reason why most of HD players today call thirdperson gay and Point Man even calls it "wall-fucking" or "fucking with the walls" is because unlike in Classic you have FOV control so they play on some ridiculous 130 FOV that I can never get used to... and also thirdperson is 50 km behind the player or something, they totally overdid it... 130 FOV in HD is ALMOST equivalent to Classic SE thirdperson on 90 FOV in close range... what these players dont realize is that by adding such huge FOV they lose everything at long range, so I took exactly advantage of that when I beat those Italian guys, HD players are strange, most of the time they ignore first shots and they are totally blind at a distance...

No. In 2014 some of the most skilled players (Trapper, *ENjoy*, Mosè, etc... mostly italians), who simultaneously used to play Quake Live, decided to impose QL standards to high-level duels for at least 2 main reasons: 1) they wanted to appear better than Zeb, and 2) if TotalEnigma played like this then you are going to follow the Absolute God's way.

They imposed:

- No Serious Damage usage;

- No 3rd person view usage (use only 1st person or els u r a fuqqin n00b!1!!!!111);

- No Sniper Mask usage (use only No Scope or els u r a 160 damages lamer faggot!!11!11!1!!);

- No Chainsaw usage (because Zeb uses it).

FOV has nothing to do with it.

Just to demonstrate how ridiculous they are: when in 2014 I was playing Shotty Trouble server against Bloodnowsky here on the old Sam, I tried playing first person only. When I wrote to him on purpose that he was playing unfair cause of 3rd person and out of map, he laughed at me (rightly).

Point Man once told me "third person, the only thing you can do". I believe it was 2015 or 2016. Maybe he "lost" his memory, cause he played a lot using 3rd person and SD until 2013-2014. He is just totally incoherent and the only thing he deserves is a medium finger at his face (or his ass, what's the difference?). Also he only had to shut up, since he was winning thanks to my LAG. You are winning; win your game and shut up: don't act as a clown, since nobody asked you for an opinion about my VIEW USAGE... But, anyway, fuck it, fuck him: who the fuck cares about it now?

If other ones use 130 I don't know and I don't like it, because of the distortion it creates on both views (we call it "fish's view"). I personally use FOV at 120 (which is optimal), I have always played at the lowest details possible from 3 different laptops (Samsung RV-520, MSi CR-650 and HP Pavilion dv6-1223sl) and the only skin I couldn't see from a long distance (from Heart to Single Shotgun platform - SamHD has another Double Shotgun right there now) was Canned Cain at Hole.
That being said, I don't understand why SamHD players are "blind" at a long distance... I have observed so many duels at Hole and players often fight from a long distance and they can still aim. Maybe you are referring to the fact they are used only to SWDM skins now...

YES! EXACTLY THIS MOUSE) I tell you it was OK for most things, and if you move it slow it is fine, but when you try to flick fast it FAILS: either it is aiming you in totally wrong direction or it keeps moving even though you stopped- the sensor is just not made for it, if you think I had a broken mouse, here is a thread I randomly found by just googling:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/730/d...8719795545829/
(Guy decided to buy a new one lol)

You might not notice anything if your sensitivity is high, but I really don't advise you to do this, this mouse is 1000 DPI, I advise to play under 20 %... now that , so I want you to explain me that because I never understood why...

Aside from the fact that the Steam discussion above gives no information at all about the settings eventually used by that guy, such as pointer speed, pointer acceleration, whether he was using SetPoint or not... but anyway... I currently use 6/11, acceleration disabled, enhanced Windows precision disabled and I didn't notice something weird yet. My guess is you increased the 11ths speed to something higher. If I use 7, that is already too fast for me. And when I used 5 for a while, it was just too slow. How much fast do I have to move to lock the mouse?

Until last year I had general sensitivity 38 or 40% and XY axis at 44 or 46%.

In Co-op I play in 1st person because it has to be played like this.

I remember seeing you in coop you were aiming in First Person and for some reason... it was bad- worse than some casuals who play

Lol, are you provoking me? I know that I play with bad hardware, but looool! Ok, I want to see this demo where I play worse than a noob in Co-op now.

do you not have any space for the mouse or what?

I still use a mousepad from the desktop we bought in 2000 or 2001, it is 26 cm left-right and 23,1 cm front-back, black gum, but it had a glued "carpet" (now detached) where the mouse stands on, which reduces surface to 24x19,5 cm. I can't remove the carpet, because the mouse works worse on the gum. The problem is when this carpet moves. Then, yeah, my mouse could lock. But it is rare (generally due by humidity).

I have read from GraphX that if you have a gaming mouse, set high DPI and low sensitivity, then you have to go to a certain website and do some tests... and the website will tell how much space for a complete turn based on every configuration parameter of yours. And I read there are people who need a lot of space for a 360° turn. Ooook, I don't doubt all of that is useful... But I'm not planning to compete at QuakeCON.

Space could be a limitation (I have the monitor, the printer, an old scanner I revived - but has buggy software - and a lot of documents on my table), but I think the main problem is I use an optical mouse on a surface designed for a PS/2 mechanical mouse with the ball (this we had the first time). Anyway... I can still pwn Lendru and he quits saying "bye cheater".

This HD game is FUNNY, listen Point Man still likes to make fun of noobs, but he has matured since then ok? His profile now is less cringe...

I hope so for him... Otherwise I would think he is more retarded than PLUTO...

About the video, ehm
1. No score was shown anywhere, and it was an edit but I don't care who won
2. No ping was shown anywhere (could be that this guy hosted, not that it was impossible to win like that too but anyway)

Oh, wait: I forgot about that DEAD PART that has been cut out by MrRocket.

Of course it is a demo. They changed everything in the interface, and you can't even see names of observers who spoke in chat... For who won, you can still ask MrRocket or Point Man for their logs and count all kills in those games... Btw, it's a shame you don't understand italian (sorry, no offense intended: you can say the same to me for not understanding russian yet, or bulgarian or greek). Look at the guy writing "the number #1 of russians". Another guy replies to him in italian, saying "Do not make fool of him, he can still rip apart your ass"; another one says "The Point Man is getting sloppy". If Point Man was winning, they would have probably asslicked him or said "Rocket, he is destroying you!".

WTF?? Hosted game? There were public servers, and players who wish to duel used to 60 mins ban those who were playing deathmatch before just for their goddamn duel.
However, MrRocket between 2015 and 2017 has defeated other high-level players who had over 2000 hours too, such as Trapper, The Prestige, SeriousAle, Serious Manu, all champions who played tournaments in Serious Sam HD back then.

Note: if you can't see ping on right bottom, then demo simply doesn't show it or MrRocket didn't activate the "show" command from console.

3. Point Man plays nothing like this today lol, I was watching the video and thinking, man was he really this stupid?

Yes, he was. This video is from 2015 or 2016 and Point Man was at his best back then. He lost against a kid (because MrRocket in early 2015 wanted to 60 mins ban me cause I killed him once at Royal Purgatory and he was 14 years old then) who began years and years after him (2014) and who played infinitely less than him, but played smarter and had already 1 1/2 or 2 years of experience back then.

HOURS IN THIS GAME DON'T help you

I've always read such sentence, everywhere. But it is only partly true.

Too many hours don't help you only if you don't play smartly or if you played other modes, or simply if you played a long time ago and you return after being inactive for a while (that could be 6+ months or years). But to reach acceptable, high level at SamHD you need a good connection and at least 2-3 years of experience, which will mean at least 800-900 hours (if you play constantly; not everyday or every week, but constantly, which means not too long pauses during the months). Before that, you have no meat nor fish flavor.

but he took the time to really improve, and now he is not rushing his opponent without thinking like in that video

No, wait.... Do you think he was new when he played those games in the video???

WRONG) I know him, he joins rarely now (SE HD), he never lost any shape..

How can you know him if you have only 15 hours... How can you say he didn't get weaker although inactivity if you didn't see him during the previous years, when he was in Immortals clan and fought clanwars too.. I don't see him now because I don't play anymore too, but he will not be the same as before for sure.

and like I said HOURS MEAN NOTHING!

In fact, then Point Man is a moron twice because he lost against a player who didn't even have half of his playing time...

Too many hours do not mean anything of course, but you still have to spend a certain amount of them...

And anyway the problem is mainly Steam that counts hours in an incorrect way. For example: I remember when I was chatting on Steam with another player (I remember this guy was scared of aliens and UFOs, and he was 18), but we stopped playing, so that I had SSHD at main menu. We kept chatting until about 3:00 AM, then I turned off Sam. Well, for Steam you are still playing even if you are stuck at main menu. Log, instead, prints hh.mm:ss of every action you are doing... and it accumulates every Serious Engine 3 startup, while in the original Serious Sam the log gets reset at every new boot of the game.

He learned a large part of what he is capable of now from other Arena Shooter games, not SS

Fantastic: he plays SamHD since 2010-2011, but he learnt how to play this game from outside of it...

call him spawn killer or whatever , it is not Classic FE- there is no ng rule he will kill you when he wants.

Once I was playing LT on Serious Sam 3, I believe it was german server. He joins and he won the game in a few minutes with only Double Shotgun.

In Medieval Rage, back to SSHD, you are in the map and he is already in front of you with Double Shotgun. You hit him the first time, but STOP! There is lag that doesn't register the hit. If you are lucky, you can hit him once and reduce his life to red. But, when you click for the last shot, you can't shoot, some milliseconds pass and then death view.

Then he goes to have a duel in a bigger map (where he CANNOT find his opponent earlier) and he looses against an under 18.

He can control only small maps because he spawnkills a lot (and ng rule has nothing to do with it; it doesn't even exist on SE old). But in bigger maps he has to search for his opponent (if it is duel) so he can't play as he wishes.

Look, he is for sure more skilled than me. And he is for sure one of the most skilled players in that game. But he isn't the absolute Number One you believe (just because he was the only skilled player you saw there). He can still be beaten if you have as much as needed experience to study and track his movements.

I knew him this way by the years. You know when I saw him playing "decently"? In 2013, when we had a clanwar. Immortals vs Serious Team, 3vs3 at Hole and Jump Over. My clan back then was new, only the leader (Nobel3D, who used to play both Serious Sam - original and HD) was a skilled player. Point Man came with 2 more russian teammates and they won widely. But the difference was we weren't properly trained (I had only 3 months experience back then, and no tactics) and we didn't play as a team; they, instead, used to attack always and always united and had already 2 years of experience at least.

Also, you are treating me like I never ever played Serious Sam HD. For Steam, I have about 792-793 hours, even if I didn't always play but I often observed others. I was active between 2013 and 2018, and I have been very long times without playing this game from time to time.
I know I've always been a mediocre player, maybe for my network, maybe for too many and too long pauses (I had to learn basic movements again from scratch every time I came back from a long inactivity, lol).
But I was able to "catch" opponents moves already in 2015-2016. That you don't still get is your brain's "prediction" (how you are calling it) is useless if you have a laggy connection that prevents your sprite to perform the proper actions. You can have all of the "mental" prediction you want, but lag makes you worse than you really are. If I had the possibility to play with russian ultra-fiber too, I can't have proof that I would have been the best or I would have been able to defeat Point Man at anytime (playing still less than him)... but I would have played much better than I did, and maybe there wouldn't have been so much difference between me and the tops. Btw, Point Man, with my connection, would have had the same results as me, I can tell you that. And this is applicable to everybody. Ayrton Senna won 3 F1 World Drivers Championships by driving a McLaren-Honda, not a Toleman-Hart.
Anyway, fuck the past, I don't care about it anymore, because this game is dead before its old version, which is still played.

It is really funny how compared to Classic, HD players (especially in that video) look like they play without even thinking, and I am totally convinced of that,

Ok, if you are convinced 15 hours are just enough to become a master , then go for a duel against Trapper, The Prestige, MrRocket, OTACON (the "italian" Point Man: he registered on Steam in 2016 and in 2018 he already had 1800 hours on SamHD, lol), Hush, Clow and see how they don't think at all and how blind they are... You have no idea how much you have to train, to be fast like that and win without dying multiple times.

But anyway, other players don't help themselves too, why do they write bullshit to him in the chat and leave immediately?

Heh, that is a common problem in every Serious Sam; like Kacper with you or Lendru with me...

When I played with him he posted nothing, because I played with him and got 8 kills on him in BFE (20/8) but next map he killed me for good lel xD.... anyway BFE is not for DM, the balance is a total train-wreck...

I have been that unlucky to play Serious Sam 3's DM too... I won only in classic maps. That game is basically a castrated Serious Sam HD.

No Marco they don't (of course depends what you pick). And you will receive all updates.

Hmm, I don't like that "depends". There are 2 ways: not installing them at all, or trying which one doesn't breach the system.

No, I didn't. I bought an all-new computer, installed Windows 10 Pro 64-bit and activated it using HWIDgen. Everything is the same and nobody is catching anybody, because Windows is activated with a legit key.

Did it come included in the price with desktop, then? Windows 7, 8 and 8.1 had "Retail" version for desktops. Is it the same for your 10 Pro?

Man, I understand it is not the best but it really isn't that bad, I mean all I want from the OS is to not crash or make bullshit errors or lack some feature that I want or used in the past, so far haven't found a single feature (that I used before) that isn't here... Some new features can be bullshit, but I am sure there are tons of guides telling you how to disable them.
What alternating? By this logic Windows 10 had to be very good, because it already went to that shit which was Windows 8.... although I hear Windows 8.1 is not that bad now (no tablet/mobile interface), and very stable....

Well, I'll see in june or later. Let me sell some calves first...

In fact Windows 8.1 has arrived after 8...

Yes like I said you need to revert all these commands I showed above to the default, including the FILTER (very important!)
Prediction of Remote Players...... I tested and never found a difference between ON and OFF as long as general prediction is on... I even have player prediction range set to 0, this doesn't mean that they don't get predicted! So I don't know..... from the ranges the most important is the Entities range, set it to something like 100, 100 m radius is enough for predictions but I have no real proof if it is working too because.... I can snipe enemies in SE much further than 100 m and they will get predicted once I aim at them... but I am not really sure on all that.

The problem is PredictionFilter must have a decimal value. Croteam's formula:

must be <1, or entities will run out of control.

0.5? 0.9? 0.2?

If those do not work, they might be... deprecated?

[red3ninja]

@Marko
I am one of the weakest players and I am very lucky. Sometimes I hit the target, other times I fail.

[Marco]

I don't use acceleration myself (Windows Pointer Precision off & 6/11 speed)

Uh, you too? I turned off everything last year and used 5/11 until a week ago. Changed to 7/11, but too fast. 6/11 is the best setting for me.

What do you think about my extras?

I want that piano, lol!

Probably better than Logitech M100
And my keyboard is also like that, simple but very cool keyboard)

No, he was talking about "extras".

That piano would be better than your cool keyboard for sure!

@Marko
I am one of the weakest players and I am very lucky. Sometimes I hit the target, other times I fail.

Yes. And guess why: because aim, in Serious Sam, is... dog's dick way made. And I brought as example Bad Boy, who is one of the most accurate players with Raptor Rifle: even him can fail shots in this game, due to how mouse support is BADLY implemented. But Supersniper keeps saying the aim is flawless here...

[Supersniper98]

Shit ok ok man you win, this is getting way too time consuming to reply to (especially with quotes idk maybe I am not used to it), I am not trying to provoke you here ok! Just my opinions!
About the "not possible with only 15 hours" ok take your screenshots:


Now I just joined here with my other account for fun, but here are my hours on both accounts (currently):
Other account:

Main account:

All these people are with private profile except the last guy (Andrew gamehag.com):

It is an older screenshot I took earlier when I played this game (was over month ago, strangely I can't find his profile anymore it doesn't appear in search...)

Anyway all this is irrelevant, you are right here: there is some truth about hours but your experience with other similar games and also how you use these hours matter (that is why I said Point Man learned from other games too)... I was trying to say that Point Man used these hours more efficiently now than before, I didn't say that "he was a noob with no hours in this video", because from that game that I saw, it looked like he had been the same for over 1300 hours.

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EDIT: I just looked and to give you a perspective how rare did Point Man play since then (compared to his growth in skill)
He had 2800 hours in that video in 2016, today- 3 years+ later, he has 3100.
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I don't need to have hours in SE HD to know Point Man man! Unlike you, long before I even touch TSE HD I know him in Discord and there you can see his behavior immediately, I don't wanna compliment him, he still has bad traits but from what I saw before, it is much better....

Ok sorry, you have 800 hours in SE HD (could have spent it in something better than this game with the most toxic community to be honest), you know it better then... but!: Very big compilation of my first 15 hours incoming here:

OTACON?) I played with him, of course he raped me) But I pissed him off)) He started crying about ping when he died 5 times when we were 4 players lel)) Then at duel it was much easier and cleaner for him to kill me, naturally. The point is, I didn't have any problem following his moves, what I saw him doing was silent-walking across the map the entire time (very annoying bug among many many other bugs in SS HD & SS3 that make the DM in those games a JOKE) and listening to where I was going, sitting behind the corners and engaging. Those were funny 15 hours man, I witnessed the full extent of how toxic this community was, some Russian said on my 2nd (!!!!!) game that I am a gay noob and 12 year old in Russian and that he can say that because he is on the internet and here everything is allowed with no consequence (some guy from >>M<< clan, I think it was strifelongue can't remember), on my 1st (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) game by another Russian I got told "and who the fuck are you", at my 6th game some Italians were speaking Italian to me but I saw word cazzo so I understood what they wanted, later they spoke broken English and insulted me, on that game with OTACON, he wouldn't dare to join when Point Man was there even on Melody's server where OTACON had 50 ping less than him, and he even dared to complain about ping on Italian server!!))) This was just gold and hilarious! Of course I don't stand any chance against any of them, but I pissed them off BOTH and a number of other people by just stepping into the game!! OTACON runs off immediately in Russian servers saying the ping is too big, even though it is lower than what the Russians have on Melody's... I only give +rep to the TMA dudes you see on the screenshot, they remained silent (I think, saw them speaking something but I think it was something not important between themselves) and this is what every other player in SE HD should do, but a bunch of them just like to flame left and right.... and now I come to that point: You spent here 800 hours!!.. ok maybe you had friends in the game or something - good for you.... but if someone more normal than me got this image that I explained above for the first 15 hours, he would delete the game, give it a negative review on Steam, and move on with his life. Nothing like this would ever happen in Classic, trust me.... I made experiments too. If you are not extremely good, everyone tolerates you, and just plays for fun. In HD, I didn't even play good but because he did not get a perfect score becoz of some 15 hour fag he will not sleep at night. I do not defend Point Man, I try to explain to you that he is not that retarted anymore, he will not post constantly screenshots of humiliating people etc like he used to... but I want you to stop defending Italian players too, you will not get it because you are Italian.... the ones that I saw have a very negative attitude towards non-Italians for some reason... I did not even SPEAK and they assumed I am a "Russian fucker" in 1 game....
Oh I played a bit with The Prestige too (I think I saw it in his steam profile written, but he had another name) - in my opinion he was much better than OTACON, who's movements I could almost entirely read and damage him good, while for that The Prestige guy I had no chance of even standing in front of him..... still worse than Point Man tho :|
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Lendru has problem with you? Lendru has problems with everyone who kills him man, relax!)
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Now on the topic of Bad Boy and his misses: it just happens... have you not seen a time where he would hit every shot too? But you are missing the very big point ( again) here: Only you complain! I spoke to Bad Boy numerous times, he will NEVER blame the aiming in this game, when I talked to him he always blamed the netcode, and he asked me to make him some good Net Settings so that it isn't that bad- where I gladly helped him. But I can understand absolutely all the complaints regarding the netcode! However I don't understand what is the problem with the mouse! Do you think Jack complains? no (only about netcode) Capricornus? About him, maybe, I don't know- but not making any deal about it as far as I have seen. Do you think Zdzichu complains? Another no! Only people complain about him (but that is another story xD).

And here, Vampir didn't even complain about aiming in the game being bad. I read this as "I am a bad player" (he is not but ok)
Don't always blame other things for lack of skill! I remember before I was playing on this Microsoft office mouse that I mentioned earlier, the desk had holes in it (like craters lol) every time my aim would bump when I go over them... relatively small space on desk (I could do only about 250 degrees when moving the mouse on normal speed- mouse acceleration stuff is hard to measure...), my internet is still not very far away from yours but I did not complain even when my computer was an old laptop from 2007 with a bunch of questionable programs running in the background that were maybe eating the performance!!! I could never go back to that situation, but I got better there and I will never forget it!)

Now to the more normal part of this post. (Sorry if I possibly conveyed some negative attitude before, I don't mean it)

Hmm, I don't like that "depends". There are 2 ways: not installing them at all, or trying which one doesn't breach the system.

Well yes, but like I mentioned earlier HWIDgen is cool. Naturally when you try to run it... to scare off people who don't know exactly what they are doing, Windows Defender is showing red lights all over the place but nothing too hard here- you just add the file in the exceptions and continue... of course they will flag as a virus an application that tries to digitally activate Windows without them wanting it

Did it come included in the price with desktop, then? Windows 7, 8 and 8.1 had "Retail" version for desktops. Is it the same for your 10 Pro?

Nothing included here, I don't buy a ready desktop computer, I bought all the parts and built it.... there was no system on it, I downloaded Windows 10 installer that is available, and you can even use it forever if you don't activate it.... just there will be this annoying watermark telling you to activate it and you will not be able to customize Themes, setting Desktop background only for 2nd monitor etc...

In fact Windows 8.1 has arrived after 8...

Hm) I don't count 8.1 as a separate OS, more like a fix for 8 lolo

0.5? 0.9? 0.2?

0.5 is the default value. Listen to the Croteam dudes- if you put it over 1 you will get desync (tried it, it was very hilarious xD... people would literally clip through walls), but you can experiment with values ... just I think not above 0.7... opponents are even faster than before when they strafe lol

[Supersniper98]

Hello Marko! I write to you again in case you are still not convinced! I just played another 3-4 hours TSE HD! Vilkro's alt account (main has 700 hours in SE HD) and M1szczu >>M<< (1700 hours) were completely obliterated in Shotty by me (24 hours at this time - had about 18/8), I was about to take screenshots but that Italian lupoalby and Vilkro (who was trolling and pressing to accept the vote) were kicking me the whole time and the Italian was screaming in chat "YOU ARE CHEATERS" yes cheater"s" idk why he uses plural the whole time. In normal maps, naturally the >>M<< guy was on top but in ST they had absolutely 0 chance) You still think, that hours are everything??? I am very bad at moving, but these guys prioritize moving too much, literally half the time I stand still, and shoot them) and IT WORKS) This guy is worse than Lendru :| And this >>M<< guy asked me "who are you??"... "I am from Classic" I said, he replied nothing. Vilkro replied "my grandfather fought there"
After spectating for a while, both the >>M<< guy and the Italian Lendru left silently.